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1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight Convertible Sedan

  • Coachwork by Dietrich
  • Engine Number: A502325
James Ward Packard purchased a Winton automobile and had some complaints about it. He was subsequently challenged by Alexander Winton to build a better car. He accepted the challenge, and Packard's first automobile fired up on November 6th of 1899. Along with his brother, William, and George Weiss as partners, he founded the Ohio Automobile Company, selling Packard automobiles in 1900. On October 13th of 1902, it officially became the Packard Motorcar Company and moved to Detroit a year later.

Featuring a number of design innovations, including the modern steering wheel, the Packard quickly became a favorite among the wealthy, both in the United States and abroad.

A popular anecdote that's engrained in Packard lore is that a potential customer sent a letter to James Packard requesting information about the dependability of his cars. At the time, there was no sales literature. Packard, President, and General Manager had no time to reply personally to the writer, so he told his secretary to tell the gentleman to simply, 'Ask the man who owns one.' Since first published in an advertisement in Motor Age on October 31st of 1901, it became arguably the most famous slogan to ever originate in America.

Packard was the premier luxury competitor for many marques but as the number of automobile manufacturers dwindled during the Great Depression, the main competition was Cadillac. Each company brought out new and innovative features to draw in high-end car buyers.

If you 'Ask the Man Who Owns One,' Packard's long-running advertising slogan, he would tell you that his car was silent and drove outstandingly. He may also tell you that the 1937 Packard Super Eight features a 9 main bearing, 320 cubic-inch inline L-Head eight-cylinder engine, with a bore & stroke 6-in x 5 inch, brake horsepower of 135 @ 3200 RPM, and equally, he would tell you that 1937 was Packard's first use of an independent front suspension.

The current owner acquired this Convertible Sedan in the early 2000s. A restoration soon began, doing most of the work himself, in 2005. He performed a full body-off restoration, finishing the car in Packard's Ivory White, and the interior is finished in maroon leather. There is a fully restored banjo-style steering wheel, restored instruments, and a working radio.

The car has been driven barely 200 miles since the restoration work was completed. It has achieved AACA judging with a First Junior, progressing to First Senior and then Grand National First in 2007. It wears a Classic Car Club of America Premier medallion, and it has been named Best in Class at both the Glenmoor Gathering in Ohio and the Gilmore in Hickory Corners, Michigan. It has also received the Joseph Parkin Award from the AACA, been honored by Packard Automobile Classics, aka The Packard Club, with the Alvan Macauley Award for Best in Show, and it was the cover car for the July/August issue of Torque, the magazine of the CCCA's Michigan region.

2023 Gooding & Company : Pebble Beach

Pre-Auction Estimates :
USD $90,000-USD $120,000 
Sale Price :
USD $134,400

2014 Motor City Auction by RM Auctions

Pre-Auction Estimates :
USD $120,000-USD $160,000 
Sale Price :
USD $137,500

1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight Auction Sales

Recent Sales of the Packard 1605 Super Eight

(Data based on Model Year 1938 sales)
1938 PACKARD SUPER EIGHT 1605 CONVERTIBLE SEDAN
Chassis#: 410-892
Sold for USD$134,400
  2023 Gooding & Company : Pebble Beach
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1938 Packard 1605 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
Chassis#: 11432009
Sold for USD$103,040
  2022 Worldwide Auctioneers : The Enthusiast Auction
 
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight Touring Sedan
Chassis#: 502148
Sold for USD$50,400
  2021 Worldwide Auctioneers : The 14th Annual Auburn Auction
 
1938 Packard Super Eight Sedanca deVille by Barker
Chassis#: A500689
Sold for USD$220,000
  2015 RM Sotheby's : Motor City Auction
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight image  1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight image  
1938 Packard Super Eight Convertible Sedan
Sold for USD$137,500
  2014 Motor City Auction by RM Auctions
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight image  1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight image  
1938 PACKARD 1605 CONVERTIBLE
Sold for USD$60,000
  2001 Kruse Auction - Auburn, IN
 

Packard 1605 Super Eights That Failed To Sell At Auction

1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight's that have appeared at auction but did not sell.
VehicleChassisEventHigh BidEst. LowEst. High
1938 PACKARD SUPER 8114320412018 GpK Auctions Atlantic City   
1938 PACKARD 1605 CONVERTIBLE 2001 Kruse Auction Auburn, IN$56,000  
1938 PACKARD 1605 CONVERTIBLE 2001 Kruse Auction Auburn, IN$57,000  
1938 PACKARD 1605 FOUR DOOR SEDAN 2001 Kruse Auction Denver, CO$28,000  

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1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight

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1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Convertible Sedan
Coachwork: Dietrich
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Convertible Sedan
Coachwork: Bohman & Schwartz
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Sedanca de Ville
Coachwork: Barker
Chassis #: A500689
Engine #: 396128
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Convertible Sedan
Coachwork: Dietrich
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Convertible Sedan
Coachwork: Dietrich
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Convertible Sedan
Coachwork: Dietrich
1938 Packard 1605 Super Eight vehicle information
Convertible Sedan
Coachwork: Dietrich
Engine #: A502325
Chassis #: A500689
Engine #: 396128